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 Re: marg keeps putting the "sub" into "sub-moron"!
Author: Martin 
Date:   02-03-10 08:59

marg asserts:
Quote:

Times have changed martin, while you used to be a good critical thinker on most issues, I'm fairly certain that the old martin wouldn't have argued as you have recently. Sorry. I have no animosity for you whatsoever, but you simply are not thinking straight on this one. Craig has always been an excellent critical thinker, he's got it right and you are wrong. If only you could see that.

Gotta love that "no animosity for you whatsoever" lie, marg! Thanks for adding yet more evidence of your truthiness, such as:
Quote:

Well Martin, I've never had a mental break down as you have had on this board. One time you posted and I believe you thought you were jesus or something similar, it might have had to do with your meds.

I've never had belief in anything supernatural. I understand well the concept that evidence should commensurate with the claim being made. And the evidence warranting the S/R theory, is more than enough, to support the S/R theory.

I'm extremely well grounded, never been indoctrinated into any religion.

I'm a natural skeptic.

Martin, you are being very illogical in all this.

Repeating: Aside from your blatant and evidence-free appeal to authority, you just can't stop lying, either.

Here is but a recent sampling of your vile, despicable, hate-fueled personal attacks against me:

"... you are more interested in personal attacks, which is exactly what you did the last time there was an attempt of having a discussion with you on it"

Ms. Pot, meet Ms. Kettle (or should I keep that all in adolescent boy's lower case, ms. pot?)

"You know Martin I've not seen Craig wanting to spend time to discuss with you this issue, here on this board when you showed interest. Why do you think that would be Martin?"

I've got to say how much you've amused me by hiding behind your cardboard cutout of Craig while you sling your vile slime, marg! I wonder how much Craig would be amused by that.

Yep, just another hate-fueled, ignorant appeal to hate and authority.

"Ah but you want to shit on Vicki and I, but not Craig huh? Do you think Craig's views are much different to mine regarding "Manuscript Found"?"

Careful, marg: Your slimy use of your cardboard cutout of Craig might be a Copyright violation, so you don't want to keep bringing it out to hide behind.

"I see, what a brilliant thinker you are Martin."

Sarcasm, the weed of deceit. That's what you're apparently smoking!

"I'd rather stick with the actual issue than your warped victim mentality."

I'll thank you not to impugn my victim mentality like that!

"For a person who specializes in posting personal attacks, you really have no grounds to complain against others about this."

I'd re-introduce you to Ms. Kettle again, but she'd just be upset you still don't remember her!

"The discussion for you is a game, a past time to get your jollies. And this is why you are much more interested in personal attacks than discussing seriously the theory. And I suspect one of the reasons, Craig has ignored you on this board for this discussion."

Charming. You can't you defend your anecdotal fantasies with credible evidence, so you must try to impute intellectual dishonesty and game-playing on my part. Then you continue to use Craig as a foil to try to disguise your hatred as if it's coming from him and as a prop with which to launch your infantile appeals to authority! What a hoot!

So Craig is ignoring me "on this board for this discussion". Your psychic powers must be strong indeed! Where, pray tell, marg, are Craig's posts in response to your comments? Or Dale's? Or anyone else's? Does he post only psychically to you, or does he post with bits that are somehow only visible to you? Inquiring minds want to know!

"I can show you numerous lines in the post I replied to martin where martin used ad hom.."

No you can't, liar. The ad hominem fallacy is extremely rare, as someone who posted with your handle once acknowledged. Only the woefully uninformed imagine that personal insults or attacks represent an example of a genuine ad hominem. I've only witnessed it one time in all of my years of reading and debating, and you were the only one who ever used it. Someone who posted with your handle once appeared to know that. That "marg" was quite proud of herself for doing so, too, and openly admitted doing so and feeling proud of it. That marg admitted several times that she employed a genuine ad hominem by repeatedly insisting I was insane and that therefore nothing I wrote had any merit. At least that marg had a tiny shred of honesty. This new one lacks even that!

""On game"? You are not referring to Vicki's ludicrous comment to you that you are "on game" I hope...because you definitely are not."

Yep, you surely have no animosity for [me] whatsoever!


And for future reference for those seeking to document staggeringly fallacious "arguments" employed in the wild, let's keep this part of your post around, too:
Quote:

Is your argument that a Spalding work was not used at all for the BoM? Are you going against Jocker's findings, and the parallel phrase evidence I've mentioned previously? If not, if you accept Spalding was used in part for the BoM , then you have no argument. Once Spalding is accepted then it follows that the Conneaut witnesses likely had correct memories and were telling the truth.

Let it be noted that that was posted on 02-03-10 at 05:42. In comparison, note the time and dates for my posts submitted before then. Enjoy!


- Martin

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Those who prize eloquence+rationality+analytic skill above politeness, Martin's our Allen Iverson. We put up with the other shit 'cause it's worth it; I didn't come to have a cup of tea. --BrianDC
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 BoM Authorship S/R Theory without Manuscript Found  new
Jersey Girl 01-31-10 16:22 
 What we lose  new
Jersey Girl 01-31-10 16:29 
 Is what we lose expendable?  new
Jersey Girl 01-31-10 16:37 
 Re: Is what we lose expendable?  new
marg 01-31-10 22:22 
 Re: Is what we lose expendable?  
Uncle Dale 02-01-10 14:07 
 Dale & marg DEMAND I reverse the Burden of Proof!  new
Martin 02-02-10 07:12 
 Re: Dale & marg DEMAND I reverse the Burden of Proof!  new
Uncle Dale 02-02-10 11:38 
 Re: Dale & marg DEMAND I reverse the Burden of Proof!  new
Martin 02-03-10 03:39 
 Re: Dale & marg DEMAND I reverse the Burden of Proof!  new
Uncle Dale 02-03-10 04:35 
 Re: Dale & marg DEMAND I reverse the Burden of Proof!  new
marg 02-03-10 04:39 
 Nice job being Dale's, er, "tool", marg!  new
Martin 02-03-10 08:34 
 I agree with you Martin  new
marg 02-03-10 16:08 
 Re: I agree with you Martin  new
Jersey Girl 02-03-10 19:35 
 Dale yet again(!) DEMANDS me to provide an alternative!  new
Martin 02-03-10 04:43 
 Re: Dale yet again(!) DEMANDS me to provide an alternative!  new
Uncle Dale 02-03-10 05:21 
 I do NOT grant you persmission to repost my words anywhere.  
Martin 02-03-10 08:43 
 Re: Dale & marg DEMAND I reverse the Burden of Proof!  new
hoplite 02-03-10 04:09 
 Thanks, hoplite  new
Martin 02-03-10 05:00 
 Re: Thanks, hoplite  new
marg 02-03-10 05:26 
 Putting this in amber, too  new
Martin 02-03-10 08:10 
 Is history scientific?  new
Martin 02-03-10 10:26 
 Re: Is history scientific?  new
marg 02-03-10 16:26 
 Why can't Marg read?  
Martin 02-04-10 01:57 
 Re: Is history scientific?  new
Jersey Girl 02-04-10 21:06 
 Re: Is what we lose expendable?  new
Jersey Girl 02-03-10 01:16 
 Vicki you can't think worth shit and you never could  new
marg 02-03-10 04:23 
 marg keeps putting the "sub" into "sub-moron"!  
Martin 02-03-10 05:23 
 Re: marg keeps putting the "sub" into "sub-moron"!  new
marg 02-03-10 05:42 
 Re: marg keeps putting the "sub" into "sub-moron"!  
Martin 02-03-10 08:59 
 Martin why should I have animosity for you?  
marg 02-03-10 16:40 
 Re: Martin why should I have animosity for you?  
Uncle Dale 02-03-10 18:00 
 Re: marg keeps putting the "sub" into "sub-moron"!  new
aussieguy55 02-03-10 19:56 
 Re: marg keeps putting the "sub" into "sub-moron"!  new
Jersey Girl 02-03-10 20:11 
 Celebrate the real victory! Do not mourn the loss of harmful anecdotes!  new
Martin 02-04-10 01:13 
 The richness of metacognition  new
Jersey Girl 02-04-10 23:08 
 Re: marg keeps putting the "sub" into "sub-moron"!  
Jersey Girl 02-03-10 21:39 
 vicki write on topic for a change instead of trying to create drama  new
marg 02-05-10 20:03 
 marg, *read* the thread instead of creating chaos  new
Jersey Girl 02-06-10 01:32 
 Martin has added nothing new that wasn't already appreciated.  new
marg 02-06-10 03:07 
 FYI lady  
Jersey Girl 02-06-10 03:35 
 Re: FYI lady  new
marg 02-06-10 04:31 
 Marg, you couldn't argue yourself out of a mime's air box!  new
Martin 02-09-10 07:10 
 Re: Marg, you couldn't argue yourself out of a mime's air box!  new
marg 02-09-10 15:49 
 Re: marg, *read* the thread instead of creating chaos  new
marg 02-06-10 18:59 
 Still waging war, are ya?  new
Jersey Girl 02-04-10 00:10 
 THIS IS THE KEY: The main flaw in marg's and Broadhurst's "thinking"!  new
Martin 02-01-10 02:15 
 Re: THIS IS THE KEY: The main flaw in marg's and Broadhurst's "thinking"!  new
marg 02-01-10 02:35 
 Go ahead and pull up your chairs!  new
Martin 02-01-10 04:41 
 Re: Go ahead and pull up your chairs!  new
Uncle Dale 02-01-10 10:30 
 Dale asks "What evidence"?  new
Martin 02-02-10 07:33 
 Re: Dale asks "What evidence"?  new
Uncle Dale 02-02-10 11:41 
 Dale again DEMANDS me to provide an alternative!  
Martin 02-03-10 04:31 
 Wait just a New York minute  new
Jersey Girl 02-02-10 21:20 
 Re: Wait just a New York minute  new
Martin 02-03-10 01:35 
 No, don't  new
Jersey Girl 02-03-10 01:42 
 Re: No, don't  new
Martin 02-03-10 03:43 
 Re: THIS IS THE KEY: The main flaw in marg's and Broadhurst's "thinking"!  new
Uncle Dale 02-01-10 10:28 
 Dale tries valiantly to save his life's work by reframing the debate  new
Martin 02-02-10 09:25 
 Re: Dale tries valiantly to save his life's work by reframing the debate  new
Uncle Dale 02-02-10 11:45 
 Re: Dale tries valiantly to save his life's work by reframing the debate  
Martin 02-03-10 09:42 
 Re: Dale tries valiantly to save his life's work by reframing the debate  new
Jersey Girl 02-02-10 23:21 
 Re: THIS IS THE KEY: The main flaw in marg's and Broadhurst's "thinking"!  new
Jersey Girl 02-01-10 19:13 
 [lost response!]  new
Martin 02-02-10 11:10 
 Re: THIS IS THE KEY: The main flaw in marg's and Broadhurst's "thinking"!  new
marg 02-03-10 05:16 
 Re: Is what we lose expendable?  new
Uncle Dale 02-01-10 14:41 
 Re: BoM Authorship S/R Theory without Manuscript Found  new
marg 01-31-10 19:26 
 Repeating what I wrote elsewhere  new
Martin 02-01-10 04:40 
 Re: Repeating what I wrote elsewhere  new
Uncle Dale 02-01-10 10:36 
 Re: Repeating what I wrote elsewhere  new
Jersey Girl 02-03-10 00:35 
 Re: Repeating what I wrote elsewhere  new
Uncle Dale 02-03-10 00:49 
 Re: Repeating what I wrote elsewhere  
Jersey Girl 02-03-10 01:02 
 Re: Repeating what I wrote elsewhere  new
Uncle Dale 02-03-10 02:05 
 This post is ready for you, Dale  new
Jersey Girl 02-03-10 19:51 
 Re: This post is ready for you, Dale  
Uncle Dale 02-03-10 21:34 
 I'm going to answer you twice  new
Jersey Girl 02-03-10 21:46 
 Re: I'm going to answer you twice  
Uncle Dale 02-03-10 22:00 
 Re: I'm going to answer you twice  new
Jersey Girl 02-03-10 22:06 
 Re: I'm going to answer you twice  
Uncle Dale 02-03-10 22:40 
 JG asks a very insightful question  
Martin 02-04-10 03:15 
 Re: JG asks a very insightful question  new
Jersey Girl 02-05-10 23:52 
 Re: I'm going to answer you twice  new
Uncle Dale 02-04-10 04:07 
 Re: This post is ready for you, Dale  new
Jersey Girl 02-03-10 21:57 
 Re: This post is ready for you, Dale  new
Uncle Dale 02-03-10 22:26 
 Re: This post is ready for you, Dale  new
Jersey Girl 02-03-10 22:29 
 Re: This post is ready for you, Dale  new
Uncle Dale 02-04-10 10:25 
 Re: This post is ready for you, Dale  new
Jersey Girl 02-05-10 23:24 
 Re: This post is ready for you, Dale  new
Uncle Dale 02-06-10 00:20 
 You are such a gentleman Dale.  new
marg 02-06-10 01:49 
 Re: You are such a gentleman Dale.  new
Uncle Dale 02-06-10 02:35 
 Re: You are such a gentleman Dale.  new
marg 02-06-10 04:08 
 *SPECIFIC QUESTION ANSWERED SPECIFICALLY!*  new
Martin 02-04-10 02:41 
 Re: *SPECIFIC QUESTION ANSWERED SPECIFICALLY!*  new
Uncle Dale 02-04-10 13:10 
 Constraints  new
Martin 02-05-10 03:18 
 Re: Constraints  new
Uncle Dale 02-05-10 11:09 
 Bravo! Bravo! A wise man indeed!  new
Martin 02-09-10 05:26 
 Re: Bravo! Bravo! A wise man indeed!  new
marg 02-09-10 15:10 
 my respect and admiration goes to Dale  new
marg 02-04-10 15:52 
 Re: my respect and admiration goes to Dale  new
Uncle Dale 02-04-10 16:17 
 Re: my respect and admiration goes to Dale  new
marg 02-04-10 17:31 
 Re: my respect and admiration goes to Dale  new
Uncle Dale 02-04-10 18:37 
 Re: my respect and admiration goes to Dale  new
marg 02-04-10 19:41 
 *Look, functioning intellects, at Marg's words and despair*  new
Martin 02-05-10 08:36 
 Broadhurst's deeply offensive allegation that I called for "SUPPRESSION"!  new
Martin 02-05-10 09:25 
 Re: Broadhurst's deeply offensive allegation that I called for "SUPPRESSION"!  new
marg 02-05-10 14:24 
 MARG DOTH BUT REPEAT THE OFFENSE!  new
Martin 02-09-10 07:19 
 I'm *sorry* that I hadn't read this earlier, Martin  new
Jersey Girl 02-03-10 00:31 
 Excellent! Spot on!  new
Martin 02-03-10 03:22 
 Stepping in again, Martin, please read this  new
Jersey Girl 02-04-10 20:08 
 Vision  new
Martin 02-05-10 05:50 
 Re: Vision and seeing the light  new
Jersey Girl 02-05-10 22:40 
 LOUD I am!  new
Martin 02-09-10 05:48 
 *** IN LITTLE WORDS, or at least in LITTLE SENTENCES *** PLEASE READ!  new
Martin 02-04-10 04:03 
 This was your best  new
Jersey Girl 02-05-10 23:37 
 mikwut has nothing to do with this discussion  new
marg 02-04-10 21:41 
 If mikwut has nothing to do with this discussion, then  new
Jersey Girl 02-04-10 21:57 
 Re: If mikwut has nothing to do with this discussion, then  new
marg 02-04-10 22:01 
 Re: If mikwut has nothing to do with this discussion, then  new
Jersey Girl 02-04-10 22:05 
 Re: If mikwut has nothing to do with this discussion, then  new
marg 02-05-10 13:02 
 Broadhurst, I ask that you not re-phrase or re-characterize my words  new
Martin 02-05-10 09:40 
 Re: Broadhurst, I ask that you not re-phrase or re-characterize my words  new
Uncle Dale 02-05-10 11:33 
 Re: Broadhurst, I ask that you not re-phrase or re-characterize my words  new
marg 02-05-10 14:49 


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