I appreciate so much what you've said here. It seemed last night when I posted that I was simply filled with disgust considering the effort many of us make to help people get started here and only to be met with childish game playing and cries of persecution. "Mommy, Mommy, they won't let me play with them!" When all the while people were helping them. johny, you'll notice, as you look down the front page. Posted an OP that said "penny just dropped" as if to say he finally understood what we'd been telling him yet he continued to avoid addressing any points.

I really am tired of the lack of integrity in people like these, the time we spend in giving them the benefit of the doubt, and then responding to their obvious game playing.

Thank you for the kind things that you said about me here. Don't worry about me, Terry. Sometimes I just need to level my protest and doing that is so often cathartic for me. It would take far more than those two clowns to discourage this Jersey Girl from participating in discussion with this collection of seriously righteous posters!

Vicki