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Posted by: Douglas A... ® 05/18/2002, 01:57:56 Author Profile Mail author |
--- "Jay Alan Sekulow, Chief Counsel" <jaysekulow@aclj.net> wrote:
> Dear Douglas Boyd, > > Your church - your pastor's sermon - your Sunday > school curriculum - could be CENSORED by the > Internal Revenue Service ... > > ... unless Congress passes a law that will PROTECT > RELIGIOUS FREEDOM! We are working with Congress to > see that the "Houses of Worship Political Speech > Protection Act" is passed - but we need your support > in this national campaign. > > Sign our RELIGIOUS FREEDOM OF SPEECH PETITION right > now that asks your U.S. Representative to protect > the religious expression of America's churches! > > http://www.aclj.net/aclj/freedom.cfm?dn=1008&commid=30423901&id=677308 > > As the law stands now, the IRS has the LEGAL RIGHT > TO ATTACK any church that makes known the moral and > ethical stand of a political candidate - and they > wield this weapon of intimidation and fear to > destroy the First Amendment freedoms exercised in > conservative-minded places of worship! > > Even worse, the IRS actually uses "coded words" to > determine if a minister, pastor or priest has > violated the political speech ban - "code words" > such as "liberal," "conservative," "pro-life" or > "pro-choice." It is no wonder why religious leaders > are chilled away from, and frightened to address > enormously important moral issues for fear of the > IRS. > > But this is not right. This is not how it should be > in America. And we are committed to seeing the law > rewritten. > > THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUES OF 2002. > We are currently engaged in several legal battles > and we will continue to fight whenever or wherever > the IRS assaults freedom - > > - but this battle will have to be fought over and > over and over again ... unless it is properly > addressed in Congress. Citizen Douglas... KYMAK agent |
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Re: Taxing Churches Re: Taxing Churches -- Douglas A... Top of thread Archive
Posted by: diehl ®
05/18/2002, 07:14:03
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lol! oh, damn... thats not a joke...
As i joke i found it funny and entertaining; as something people really belive, it falls somewhere between pathetic and scary.
When any instiution begins to advocate any politcal view/stand then they sould pay taxes. Wait, why not make them all pay taxes? Then there is no threat, plus it becomes *gasp* FAIR. Now we wouldn't want that now would we (I'm using the exclusive "we" here)... treating religion like everything else (I wish).
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Taxing Governent Re: Re: Taxing Churches -- diehl Top of thread Archive
Posted by: Douglas A... ®
05/20/2002, 22:32:25
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Then the institution of government should be taxed. One of the most taxing things on government is the limits of their power - in our system We the People decided in 1787 that it could not tax or otherwise regulate the Church of Christ our Lord because as the Supreme Court later said, "the power to tax is the power to destroy. There are limits on how We the People can be taxed as well - it seems these too are being ignored these days. Lord help us! Amen? Amen! Say Amen and Hoshanna.
Citizen Douglas...
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Re: Taxing Governent Re: Taxing Governent -- Douglas A... Top of thread Archive
Posted by: diehl ®
05/23/2002, 03:42:20
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Then nothing should pay taxes, churches are an orginazation like a gang, a club, a buisness, or simply an activists group. They are people with a common goal, so I feel that it is only fair that they are all taxed or none are taxed.
Churches aren't special, and are not dserving of special treatement.
I myself dislike taxes, but I do accept them as nessicary... I like the goverment doing things, that takes money, which must come from the people.
Also what good would taxing the gov do? Thats like saying I'm going to give myself 15% of my income, and keep the rest for myself.
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Re: Taxing Governent Re: Re: Taxing Governent -- diehl Top of thread Archive
Posted by: Wayne Wilson ®
05/23/2002, 05:31:31
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Churches should only be taxed if they are making a profit. The reason to not tax a church is most churches only take donations in order to take care of their buildings, and provide for the poor.
But when a church is acting as a lobbying group endorsing cnadidates, and publicly supporting or fighting bills, then their tax exempt status should be challenged.Wayne
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Re: Taxing Governent Re: Re: Taxing Governent -- Wayne Wilson Top of thread Archive
Posted by: Douglas A... ®
05/30/2002, 00:39:54
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I use the word taxing not in the sense of taking money but in the effect of limiting its power - something the government hates more than or at least as much as most people hate taxes.
And, Our Lord (mentioned in Art. VII of the Constitution) works thru His Church to that effect . Will you presume to limit the Holy One of Israel?
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