Posted by: Snowy Shaw ®
01/07/2002, 17:09:08
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With all the non-believers and non-LDS on this board you're either asking for trouble or you don't have enough friends in the church you're going back to. But of course we're willing to give advise (I mean, everybody's entitled to my opinion).
As an avid ex-LDS/ex-christian I cannot understand your choice to go back to church, but it's your choice. So here's my advice.First, you said you're "allowed" to go back to the temple. Now, if you're going to go back I would assume that what matters most is that you feel ready and worthy. If you don't then why go, obviously you don't feel that you should go then. Second, it is strange to me that you should feel embarrassed to speak to your bishop about it. I mean do you or don't you believe he represents god in his calling as bishop? Third, I would say that it is entirely a matter of believing and feeling worthy. I would suggest wearing your garments again as soon as you feel worthy to do so. A good example might be the moment that you get your temple recommend, in case you're in doubt, because technically that means you're worthy. What I feel from your question though is that you are very uncertain about yourself. It means that you are doing things in your life now based on fears or out-of-control needs within you (perhaps the guilt is killing you or social pressures that are underlying the issues). At any rate, it doesn't sound like you're choices are based on intelligence, wisdom, unwavering faith or a burning testimony. So you tell me, are you worthy to go to the temple?
I have a doubt... Snowy Shaw
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Posted by: Janet ®
01/07/2002, 17:43:07
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I am worthy to wear them again..and I do not know of another place to ask this question
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Posted by: Snowy Shaw ®
01/07/2002, 17:57:12
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It seems to me it's as simple as that. Does god need to come down and give it to you in writing? I still think it's strange, or perhaps I should say unfortunate, that you have no-one in your life that you can confide in on such mattters. Whatever happened to asking god? Is he not answering? I may seem direct and crude, but I really do wonder about these things. Are you so alone in your life? I do feel for you then. Snowy Shaw
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Posted by: Janet ®
01/07/2002, 22:18:25
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I jave prayed about it and I do belive I should wear them.....
And no I am not alone, I have a wonderful and understanding man in my life who is a strong member of the church. He knows I am not wearing them and that I did go thru the Temple. He has not given an opinion on the matter.
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Posted by: MormonDude ®
01/08/2002, 11:26:19
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It is interesting that you used this question to spew forth some anti-mormon venom  It is quite common for people to be a so-so member of the Church, to fall away for whatever reason, and then suddenly get a feeling that the Church actually is a good thing, and come back full force. Many end up being lifetime members from that point forth. It is a common story I have heard a lot lately. So I do understand a wanting to come back. It is very common. So you better watch it. One day something in your life might inspire you to return (no matter what you think at this exact moment) and you might end up eating your words . That of course is just my opinion.
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Posted by: Snowy Shaw ®
01/09/2002, 05:24:27
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I said I didn't understand her desire to go back. What I attacked was her apparent uncertainty about it. I just wanted to push her into making a decision. Either she was gonna give in and admit uncertainty or she was gonna be reinforced in her belief that she is doing the right thing. The latter happened. It wouldn't be my choice but then it wasn't my choice to make, was it now? Snowy Shaw
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Posted by: Mensch ®
01/07/2002, 18:28:30
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You say: I have been gone from the church for 3 years. I am allowed to go back to the temple in 3 months. There's a lot left unsaid between those two sentences. Did your Bishop tell you that you can go back to the Temple in 3 months, i.e., haven't you been talking to your Bishop about worthiness issues anyway? If not, why the 3 month waiting period? There is a question about garments in the temple recommend interview so you're going to have to discuss it with him sooner or later -- might as well be sooner.
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Posted by: Janet ®
01/07/2002, 22:15:45
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I spoke with the Bishop and he said I can go back to the Temple in 3 months.
He just never asked me if I still wear them or not....
I just feel silly asking him.
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Posted by: Alf Omega ®
01/08/2002, 00:03:25
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According to a recent General Handbook of Instructions, unless you were excommunicated, you should have been encouraged to continue wearing them, even while you are unable to attend the temple. I think that you have received far too much flak here for what seems an innocently motivated question, and I can understand your embarrassment about bringing it up with your bishop.
Modified by Alf Omega at Tue, Jan 08, 2002, 17:07:25
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Posted by: Mensch ®
01/08/2002, 00:35:40
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Alf is correct. I apologize if my comment was interpreted as giving you flak.
Modified by Mensch at Tue, Jan 08, 2002, 00:39:15
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Posted by: violet ®
01/07/2002, 22:42:44
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Is there a reason you are NOT wearing them? I am questioning your judgement. Basically because if you are an active member, with a desire to attend the Temple, and are worthy to attend, why WOULDN'T you be wearing them? Or are you thinking that you can only wear them after you are given your recommend? If it's a case of feeling unworthy to wear them until your recommend comes through, then I'd agree that perhaps you need to wait - only because that is when 'technically' you are 'worthy'.
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Posted by: Janet ®
01/07/2002, 23:42:33
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I have not worn them in a long time.....I am worthy to wear them. I am just unsure if it is OK per the church guidlines to say " OK I am back, yes I did some wrong things but I am walking the straight and narrow now. I will just put them back on!" THe Bishop did not ask and I did not volunteer the information.
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Posted by: cenglewood ®
01/08/2002, 00:18:12
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i was just asking my bishop about levels of church probabation yesterday. he said that there are 4 levels: informal probation (just between you and the bishop, the other 3 require some church council), formal probation, disfellowship, and finally excommunication. he told me that even in cases of disfellowship, he encourages people to wear their garments even if they are not currently holding temple recommends. my guess is that while on the one hand garments are a right for which you should be worthy, on the other hand they are a protection, and you might just need the help of wearing them in a time when you are so close to returning to the temple. they might help in your preparation, focus, etc. . if i were you, i'd start wearing them again.
honestly, though, i would really talk to your bishop instead of getting advice from a stranger (like me). remember that while garments are kind of a weird topic for us, he is the bishop and they are probably not a big deal to him. think of them more like a jewish prayer shawl or something and it shouldn't be so weird to just ask him a quick "hey, should i be wearing my garments again?" the next time you are in a private setting. he will probably just say "yes" and not go off on some long speech about underwear. they are really not something to be embarrased about, even if it feels like a strange topic. good luck
Modified by cenglewood at Tue, Jan 08, 2002, 00:31:28
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Posted by: shooter ®
01/10/2002, 23:39:18
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Lets hope your leaders are more 'inspired' than those who interviewed & married Felix Urioste (sp?) who was a guy in Bountiful who was sealed to her(?)husband in the Temple. NO one, from Bishop to those in the Temple stopped it, so it appears a lot of folks were asleep at the switch in listening to the still small voice. Felix was a guy masquerading as a woman & her/his/its "husband" never figured it out until his 'wife' was picked up by the Sheriff. As for your question, ask the Bishop. Inspired or not, that is his job.
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