Posted by: rpcman ®
01/05/2002, 17:22:13
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Click on your profile, then edit, then put anyone you've had enough of in your "List of ignored users". You'll find that you can enjoy life more. ;)
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Posted by: violet ®
01/05/2002, 18:36:31
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If you don't mind! Ramona tried to send me a private message, and am dont see anything indicating it arrived. Is there a way to check or know when you have private messages? How do you retrieve them? Of course they can always email me, but we were just trying to figure that feature out.
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Posted by: violet ®
01/05/2002, 18:42:29
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Gee, I figure if we are going to keep this I want to know how to navigate it! LOL! How do I access the archived files from the old board? I wanted to copy and paste my previous answer to Aaron's question about the universe.
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Posted by: Aaron V. ®
01/05/2002, 19:03:59
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My thread has not yet been archived, so you should be able to access your post by entering the forum as usual.
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Posted by: rpcman ®
01/05/2002, 19:07:10
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Here is the thread you are looking for:
http://www.1reviews.com/forum/read.php?f=4&i=27715&t=27656To get private messages you can click on the "Private Msg" link on the top or bottom link bar on the main message page. I sent her a private message in a thread that later got messed up (due to the thread starter deleting their message I think) so if your private message came through that thread then it is probably gone now.
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Posted by: Aaron V. ®
01/05/2002, 18:50:17
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When you login, you get to a page presenting you with several possible routes to take -- one of these should be private messages. I hope it's this simple...
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Posted by: violet ®
01/05/2002, 18:53:00
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I am bookmarked here. I am automatically logged in whenever I visit, and I don't see anywhere to log out! But I do remember something about that on that page
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Posted by: Ramona ®
01/05/2002, 18:55:31
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Violet, Have you received any mail from me?? Too much technology, too few gray matter cells. -R
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Posted by: violet ®
01/05/2002, 19:00:15
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Yes, I found them! It was strange, I had clicked on a post, and suddenly I saw I had two messages, and also could see who was logged in and posting - I sent you a message,and then the info that indicated who was logged in disappeared and I haven't seen it since! check your private messages.
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Posted by: AHF ®
01/05/2002, 18:05:25
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Dear Eric, In spite of past altercations I must say that you have acquitted yourself well in your exchanges with Martin. Don't be tempted to run off. If you believe that you are right then weather the storm and hold on to the truth that you cherish. Regards, AHF
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Posted by: Martin ®
01/05/2002, 21:03:53
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Perhaps once you've re-read your own posts here, which started with your own unfair attack on Vicki, you will see how your own actions brought this about. Then again, perhaps not.
- Martin
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Posted by: Eric ®
01/08/2002, 00:36:02
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Okay, I'm back in a little cameo. School will keep me busy and away from laughing at your lack of logic here. You've stated plenty of times that urkers take up board bandwidth. This is absolutely true. You also said that for eveyr post, at least 20-50 people read it. Now Martin, if you possessed that knowledge, and you knew the board wa shaving bandwidth problems, why didn't you adjust the amount of posts you made, especially those which were completely off topic and completely insulting? Of course, you're always the right one here, right Martin? Of course you played no part in it. Save the spin for somewhere else. Be Honest. Were you a part of the problem? I know I was, so I backed off. I even reccommended ignoring AHF, but you just kept on your rampage.
Eric
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Posted by: Martin ®
01/08/2002, 20:51:45
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See my posts to Tom, particularly this one Yes, I was less than 0.005 percent of the problem. That's 0.000048 of the bandwidth usage. And another glaring flaw in your foolish premise is your unwarranted assumption that every single lurker read every single post. That's just stupid! You clearly can't assess facts and reason very well. Clearly, your hatred and attacks on me are personal, petty, and juvenile. If you had been able to think more clearly and honestly, you would at least have attacked AHF and that Joshua threesome more than I. And you STILL haven't posted anything of value here. I hope you don't repeat these little cameos... And, in case you've forgotten, here is what you wrote to me: "You just PROVED YOUR OWN POINT, you ignorant bastard.
Martin wrote: "Please prove that the bandwidth problem was caused by posters and not lurkers. A rule of thumb is that for every post you have 20-50 people who read it." HELLO? FOR EVERY FUCKING SLANDER POST YOU MADE TO EVERYONE YOU DISLIKE, THAT MANY PEOPL READ IT. What's the solution? DON'T MAKE USELUESS POSTS. Instead all you did was CONTINUE TO DO IT. Go play stupid somewhere else."
- Martin
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Posted by: Vicki ®
01/05/2002, 21:20:42
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The solution is simple. Why don't you take your own advice and ignore him? Isn't that what you told others to do concerning AHF? So far as I can tell,and I've read most of the discussions as I've been lurking, the first personal attacks came from you when you called Martin an "Ignorant bastard". And so far as I can tell...the "ignorant bastard" has been on his feet trying to help sort things out here to make life liveable and more familiar to us all. And what has your contribution been except to make a public spectacle of yourself? You are clearly out of bounds. Vicki
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Posted by: Eric ®
01/08/2002, 00:41:12
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Perhaps you shoudl read here, Vicki. Maybe then you'll see me being called "ignorant." I guess I am also "dumb," and should be "ashamed" of myself. Besides, does it matter who started it? It's him fighting till the bitter end, until he gets his way. What was he tryign tp ull be getting himself involved and making a post completely off topic and insulting to me? Of course, he is my friend. Rather, I thought he was. In any case, why don't we call a WAAAAAAAMBULENCE for all of us?
Eric
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Posted by: Vicki ®
01/08/2002, 00:53:03
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Eric: What was he tryign tp ull be getting himself involved and making a post completely off topic and insulting to me? Vicki: That's EXACTLY what I asked myself when YOU posted OFF TOPIC on the thread I began Eric! The "Meeting of the Minds" thread was to survey poster who wished to contribute financially by logging in their "affirmative" replies. You posted a sarcastic and condescending remark to me that had absolutely nothing to do with your willingness to offer financial support. Take your pissing contests elsewhere.
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Posted by: Ramona ®
01/08/2002, 10:23:51
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Vicki,Why don't you have a little cheese with that Whine?
You whine about Rpcman's forum, ad naseum, when the alternative could very well have been a sign off to the forum. He was rather accomodating to keep any forum at all. Instead you drone on about what you want and don't like. Asking works so much better and is far easier to swallow. Then you whine on about Eric. Quite being such a naghag and get on with learning, and perhaps ask nicely about the forum functions you don't understand. I admit to not understanding things completely, but (though not much credit to me) I remembered to at least say: please and thank you. You should have had those words mastered by not, but to no avail. Sighhhhhh. -Ramona
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Posted by: Ramona ®
01/08/2002, 18:08:07
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In the event that I have not been clear enough, I have lost a great deal of respect in you Vicki. You likely do not care, but it's off of my chest. -Ramona
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Posted by: Vicki ®
01/08/2002, 18:54:00
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I am not interested in fueling a contest here with you or anyone else. If you bothered to read any of my posts on this new forum you would see that I have and continue to ask questions in order to find my way around here and adapt to the new format. Your opinion of me is not my business. Save your condenscending remarks for those who are in want of your guidance. If you have an issue with me you can put it into my email.
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Posted by: Ramona ®
01/08/2002, 21:41:51
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You could have saved your remarks for e-mail as well. You chose to put them here. That is precisely my point.As for condescending remarks, take a look at what and how to spoke to RPCman. That was just rude of you. Ramona
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Posted by: Martin ®
01/10/2002, 18:18:53
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Who do you think you are, Miss Sanctimonious Manners? Your not infrequent attack posts hardly distinguish you, Ramona, as a particularly kind and thoughtful poster. Your mirror needs cleaning, too.
- Martin
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Posted by: Ramona ®
01/10/2002, 18:34:02
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You wanted to know if I held you by a different standard then Eric, and then insult me when i give you what you ask. BTW This thread was not about me. And, I admit to not always being the nicest of people, but i am hoping that my spots change over time. I can't win with you Marty, even if I am right, which you know I am. Ramona
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Posted by: Martin ®
01/10/2002, 19:43:28
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..., is that while you can sometimes be nice to people that please you for some arbitrary reason, you can also be very spiteful, often disingenuous, highly sanctimonious, and have double standards. You are not right at all, Ramona.
- Martin
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Posted by: Martin ®
01/08/2002, 20:41:30
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You said you were leaving, Eric. But obviously, you lied. It seems you had more unwarranted insults and whining to spew, just like a little boy whose been told to clean up his toys. You make an ugly and childish fuss, insult me worse than ANYONE ever has, but stupidly think you're the aggreived party? There's no rational way you can compare anything I've ever said to you with what you wrote: "You just PROVED YOUR OWN POINT, you ignorant bastard.
Martin wrote: "Please prove that the bandwidth problem was caused by posters and not lurkers. A rule of thumb is that for every post you have 20-50 people who read it." HELLO? FOR EVERY FUCKING SLANDER POST YOU MADE TO EVERYONE YOU DISLIKE, THAT MANY PEOPL READ IT. What's the solution? DON'T MAKE USELUESS POSTS. Instead all you did was CONTINUE TO DO IT. Go play stupid somewhere else." You are obviously suffering from some serious personal problems and are taking it out on Vicki and I, who between us has stuck up for you scores and scores of times. Some gratitude, "friend"! I don't recall that you've EVER made a particularly valuable post, Eric. Can you point us to one? I'd be surprised. You wasted AT LEAST as much space as I did, and if you don't know that, you certainly should. I liked it better when you had promised to depart. Don't you keep your promises?
- Martin
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Posted by: Ramona ®
01/08/2002, 21:55:23
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You said that you would be an infrequent poster. You obviously lied too, or the situation just changed. So too perhaps, with Eric. But, your post brings me to a question. If being an agnostic is so good and makes you so content, than why the cruelty? Eric historically has stood by your side. He was upset by the manner in which you behaved at the beginning of the new forum. No real surprise there. But, at first chance you attempt to crucify him and run him off. I thought the golden rule was still followed by agnostics? -Ramona
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Posted by: Martin ®
01/08/2002, 22:00:20
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Eric started by attacking Vicki. I stood up for her against his tirade that demonstrated he was not thinking clearly at all, and was being dishonest in the bargain. It is ludicrously unfair of you to condemn Vicki and I and give the tyrannical abuse by Eric a pass! He wrote: "You just PROVED YOUR OWN POINT, you ignorant bastard.
Martin wrote: "Please prove that the bandwidth problem was caused by posters and not lurkers. A rule of thumb is that for every post you have 20-50 people who read it." HELLO? FOR EVERY FUCKING SLANDER POST YOU MADE TO EVERYONE YOU DISLIKE, THAT MANY PEOPL READ IT. What's the solution? DON'T MAKE USELUESS POSTS. Instead all you did was CONTINUE TO DO IT. Go play stupid somewhere else."
How can you be so divisive and biased as to attack me and Vicki and bless the vileness of Eric's hateful, vicious rants here that started it all? Your posts are only adding to the abuse.
- Martin
Modified by Martin at Tue, Jan 08, 2002, 22:01:49
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Posted by: Martin ®
01/08/2002, 22:10:56
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I wrote: "you will probably see very little of me here" And I've stood by Eric's side at least as often as he's stood by mine. What's good for the goose... Why don't you ask Eric why he indulged in such cruelty? I remind you that he wrote: "You just PROVED YOUR OWN POINT, you ignorant bastard.
Martin wrote: "Please prove that the bandwidth problem was caused by posters and not lurkers. A rule of thumb is that for every post you have 20-50 people who read it." HELLO? FOR EVERY FUCKING SLANDER POST YOU MADE TO EVERYONE YOU DISLIKE, THAT MANY PEOPL READ IT. What's the solution? DON'T MAKE USELUESS POSTS. Instead all you did was CONTINUE TO DO IT. Go play stupid somewhere else." Your thinking and judgement is seriously flawed, Ramona. It is not balanced in the least.
- Martin
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Posted by: Ramona ®
01/10/2002, 16:54:29
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That's some pretty funny stuff you are writing Martin. I will answer the question simply, unabashedly, and unapologetically. Do I hold Eric (16) by a different standard than Martin (guessing late 30's early 40's?) YES! Do I think it would be reasonable for Eric to have an adult relationship at his age? Nope. Do I think that he should be able to vote at his age? Nope. Do I think it is reasonable for a 16 year old to drive? Nope, and many states are changing that fact to 18.Have you committed the same behaviors as Eric? Yes. I even accused him of learning them from you. You remarked, in another thread, that "those that hate you" would be glad that you would not be posting as frequently. Why would anyone hate you with all of your sweet talk? How many have you called idiot? I have been fortunate to not have been treated as some have, by you. I thank you for that. But, I don't see that Eric has done anything you have not done, in the past. I excuse him, to some extent, based solely his age and the hormonal influence and immaturity effects his behavior. DOn't dish what you can't take! Ask me about 16 year old and the justice system? I'll give you an earful. I performed my student internship in the Cuyahoga (Cleveland) County juvenile Courts. -Ramona
BTW Another accused me of not defending that person from, what was termed "character assasination" by you. If you are going to dish, you'd better be able to take it.
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Posted by: Martin ®
01/10/2002, 18:13:43
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You're pretty hilarious yourself, Ramona. And vengeful and biased and not at very fair or even-handed. Why, you even chose to misquote me! But it's refreshingly honest to see you openly admit that participants should not be treated equally, and that you think serious verbal abuse is just fine as long as it comes from Eric (who is 17, by the way, since it matters so much to you). And when did you plan on explaining to others what you told me about the emotional context in which you wrote your attack posts? It's odd that you apologized to me in one setting and then chose to take back what you had said and attack me here in public. Please spare me your hypocritical sanctimony. Would you ignore it if I wrote to you what Eric did? If I were 17 and I called you "stupid" and an "ignorant bastard"? You can say you would, but I wouldn't believe it for a second.
- Martin
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Posted by: Eric ®
01/10/2002, 18:43:43
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I am 16 until May 10th of this year, unless 1985 p+ 16 May 10th's = 17 years of age. Your damn right she woul dbe pissed if I posted that stuff to her. But she would also take into consideration what I had to say rather than whine about it for an eternity.
Eric
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Posted by: Vicki ®
01/10/2002, 19:05:33
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and intelligent enough Eric, to acknowledge the fact that your statements are contradicted by your behavior. The off topic posts were initiated by you here. The inflammatory bantering began with your posts on Forum 2 and continued over here on the new forum. You have been the recipient of responses to your own anger provoking messages.
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Posted by: Eric ®
01/10/2002, 19:21:02
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I was correcting him on my age, since he seemed to care so much, Vicki. He made it a point to correct Ramona on my age as if she were ignorant and not a true friend of mine. Which is childish. Of course, he was wrong on my age. If the off topic posts were initiated by me, why wasn't it me who posted several threads complaining about the new board? Give me a break, Vicki. It's obvious what you're doing right now. Martin was wrong on my age (even though he seemed to care a lot), yet you still defend him by brining up yet another subject that has been run in the ground and both Ramona and I have proven him wrong in. Go be an irrational thought zealot somewhere else.
Eric
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Posted by: Vicki ®
01/10/2002, 19:30:09
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to refresh your memory is a survey of posters. To which you entered in with off topic replies. In much the same way you interjected inflammatory remarks on 1-4, I believe it was, on Forum 2 when Martin posted his objection to the new forum. I should think that rpcman is equipped to do his own bidding here without you assuming the role of his mouth piece. As I recall Eric, it was you who advised people to ignore AHF. (who is now posting forthrightly and articulately here). In what way have you applied this principle to your current exchanges with Martin?
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Posted by: Martin ®
01/10/2002, 19:53:16
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Another evasionary and insulting post! Vicki and I have come to your defense more often than you've probably posted at all! And yet, in your unacknowledged shame, you attack us with your hateful vitriol instead of admitting that you were entirely at fault for starting the attacks in the first place. And with astonishing dishonesty and shockingly terrible thinking, you evade our replies and insist on reducing the true issue to a few months of your age! How pathetically juvenile, Eric.
- Martin
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Posted by: Vicki ®
01/10/2002, 20:06:54
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side tracking coupled with an inability to accept responsibility for one's behavior. This is how you do it. Post nasty and inflammatory messages to posters and in so doing, contradict your own stated principles for participation on this board, then...when called on it you immediately address minor inaccuracies such as age in an effort to redirect attention away from the facts which prove the contradiction you've been challenged with. Zealously Thought Out,
Vicki
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Posted by: Martin ®
01/11/2002, 01:22:34
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Eric and Ramona are beyond question fully capable of grasping those facts. I wonder (rhetorically, of course) why they won't...
- Martin
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Posted by: Ramona ®
01/11/2002, 07:09:49
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side tracking coupled with an inability to accept responsibility for one's behavior. This is how you do it. Post nasty and inflammatory messages to posters and in so doing, contradict your own stated principles for participation on this board, then...when called on it you immediately address minor inaccuracies such as age in an effort to redirect attention away from the facts which prove the contradiction you've been challenged with.
Zealously Thought Out,
VickiDear Vicki, That is exactly how Martin engaged in the argument with me. Bravo for noticing. He tried attacking my argument by stating that Eric was 17 and not the correct 16, as I stated. Martin even went so far as to make a derogatory comment about it. Very good observation Vicki. You hit Martin's argument style on the head. I will now consider this argument well and truly over and leave this thread in peace. Phewww. Ramona
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Posted by: Vicki ®
01/11/2002, 18:31:13
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Ramona, Tell me...where do you think the first "blow" was in this altercation? Can you pinpoint the post? Are you at all interested in accuracy in truth? Vicki
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Posted by: Martin ®
01/10/2002, 19:33:53
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You started the whole ball of wax, Eric! Or are you, as Ramona is willing to do, excusing your own hate-filled attacks because you're just a kid? Everything you said in those posts indicated very sloppy and patently fallacious thinking on your part. rpcman told us that the bandwidth last month had exceeded TEN GIGABYTES!! Unlike you, I actually did some careful thinking and even some measurements. The posts you have viciously and unconscionably attacked me for added up to a vanishingly small percent of 10 GIGABYTES of bandwidth, even if you assume they were read 50 times! Thus, your bitter attacks on me were not only hateful and mean-spirited, they were stupid! And they were also appallingly disingenuous, since you wasted more than your fair share of bandwidth with worthless posts. Where's your honesty, Eric? You have wasted even more bandwidth HERE with your continuing smear campaign against me than I did over there with AHF!! And you STILL haven't contributed anything of merit here! You really should be embarrased by all this, Eric, rather than making it worse as you are doing!
- Martin
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Posted by: Martin ®
01/10/2002, 19:46:13
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So why are you perpetuating a dead argument by posting such an argument-prolonging post? You really can be quite dishonest, Ramona.
- Martin
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Posted by: Ramona ®
01/11/2002, 07:05:31
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Martin:=So why are you perpetuating a dead argument by posting such an argument-prolonging post?
Ramona - I took it to e-mail, so that you don't throw any more hissy fits here. The horse is well and truly dead though. Now you want to harm my character to make you feel good about yourself, just like the queen argument. Hurt others to bring yourself up. Seek therapy. Ramona
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Posted by: Ramona ®
01/10/2002, 19:13:43
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Martin-You're pretty hilarious yourself, Ramona. And vengeful and biased and not at very fair or even-handed. Why, you even chose to misquote me! Ramona - Martin's direct quote"Fortunately for all those who hate me, you will probably see very little of me here."
Ramona- Now I repeat my question, why would those, hate you with all that sweet talk of yours?
Martin - :=But it's refreshingly honest to see you openly admit that participants should not be treated equally, and that you think serious verbal abuse is just fine as long as it comes from Eric (who is 17, by the way, since it matters so much to you). Ramona - That's 16, and yes, it's important. I don't think verbal abuse is appropriate, but why does the wolf cry wolf? Martin - And when did you plan on explaining to others what you told me about the emotional context in which you wrote your attack posts? Ramona - I think perhaps you are confusing two different subjects. You know my e-mail address, it's posted. Martin- It's odd that you apologized to me in one setting and then chose to take back what you had said and attack me here in public. Ramona - Apologized? You have got to be kidding. Why should I apologize for Eric's mimicry of Martin? The apology was in regards to another subject. Martin - Please spare me your hypocritical sanctimony. Ramona - I'll try, but I'm a slow study, so don't expect changes soon. Martin:Would you ignore it if I wrote to you what Eric did? Ramona; NOpe, but I would have used e-mail. Unless, he requested me not use that form of communication. Martin- If I were 17 and I called you "stupid" and an "ignorant bastard"? Ramona - 16. And you have called words likewise. I told you I didn't like it. And I would assume your continued good manners with me, as I do with Eric. Martin-You can say you would, but I wouldn't believe it for a second.
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