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Posted by: Bubbles ® 01/26/2002, 17:32:38 Author Profile Mail author |
Barbara Thiering claims in this book that Jesus was part of the royal priestly line of the Qumran sect, Jesus was born out of wedlock, did not perform any miracles, did not die on the cross but was drugged and later revived in a burial cave, married twice, and fathered three children. It must be noted that none of the Dead Sea Scrolls mention Jesus. Yet there are people in the non-biblical documents that are called by pseudonyms, which are names that an author makes up. Thiering claims that the same person can be called by a number of different pseudonyms. From this claim she assumes that out of all of the pseudonyms, there are two main people written about called the Teacher of Righteousness and the Wicked Priest/the Scoffer/Man of a Lie/Rival Teacher (11-16). Her discoveries about Jesus are based solely on the idea that Jesus was, in pseudonym terms, this Rival Teacher and that John the Baptist was the Teacher of Righteousness (19). Not only do nearly all scholars not agree with Thiering's discovery, but also the evidence shows that Thiering is really jumping out on a limb to make these claims. There are a plethora of examples to be given, but for the sake of simplicity I will just mention one. Everything that Thirering claims is based on the dating of the DSS scrolls. She throws out the dating that archaeologists, paleographers, and carbon-14 dating have all concluded with. She gives very little evidence for her new method of dating. I am not skeptical of someone who goes against the grain, but I am incredibly skeptical of someone that must make up her own evidence to prove a point. This is an extreme example of what I call eisegesis (reading into things). Related link: http://www.1reviews.com/archive/read.php?f=3&i=3397&loc=0&t=3397 |
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Question #1 Re: Jesus and the Riddle of the DSS. -- Bubbles Top of thread Archive
Posted by: Vicki ®
01/26/2002, 19:42:28
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How does the writer explain HOW Jesus was drugged and revived in a burial cave? Vicki
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Question #2 Re: Question #1 -- Vicki Top of thread Archive
Posted by: Vicki ®
01/26/2002, 20:52:55
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Correct me if I'm wrong, I'm no Bibe Scholar that's for sure, but don't the Dead Sea Scrolls cover Old Testament times? Why would they mention Jesus? Vicki
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Re: Question #2 Re: Question #2 -- Vicki Top of thread Archive
Posted by: Ramona ®
01/27/2002, 15:05:54
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Correct me if I'm wrong, I'm no Bibe Scholar that's for sure, but don't the Dead Sea Scrolls cover Old Testament times? Why would they mention Jesus?
Vicki
"Dead Sea Scrolls are of OT times? Yes and No (click Here.)"
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Re: Question #1 Re: Question #1 -- Vicki Top of thread Archive
Posted by: Mat ®
01/26/2002, 22:57:04
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How does the writer explain HOW Jesus was drugged and revived in a burial cave?
VickiHi Ya Vicki!
I don't know if this is the same answer you will get from Bubbles(what a cute name), but I saw this on a Discovery Channel or History Channel documentary the a while back.
I can't remember the particulars, but some scientists(archeologists I presume) talked about a drug that was used in those times made from a plant. It was ground up into a liquid and a sponge was dipped into it. Each time the sponge was dunked, they would let it dry and then dunk it again. Once the sponge was saturated with the drug, it was dried completely. How did the deliver the drug? Get this. They used vinegar to release it from the sponge. That might be where this lady got her theory.
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Hey Mat!!! Re: Re: Question #1 -- Mat Top of thread Archive
Posted by: Vicki ®
01/27/2002, 15:44:46
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Yes, I'm aware of the method you speak of. My Question #1 was a lead in to THIS question...
Let's say that Jesus WAS drugged and appeared dead to the crowds who witnessed his crucifixtion. Uh...excuse me folks...but how do you suppose he survived the sword pierced in his side, the exit of blood and water from his body? Oh and ...there's the little detail about the Roman Soldier guarding the tomb. Not to mention ah...er....that the body was most surely kept a close watch on because the LAST thing the government would have wanted at the time is STOLEN body to perpetuate the "MYTH" of Jesus Resurrection....please!
Vicki
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