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Title: On behalf of another
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Posted by: rdl ®
10/17/2002, 06:15:57

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Sink or swim

According to fundamentalist doctrine, a believer should not divorce under any circumstances. The unbelieving spouse is "sanctified" by the believer--they could be saved because of your example. You know what? I say let them worry about their own sanctity and if God exists and if he is almighty, let Him find another way to save them. Let the SB's save them or kiss my ass!!!

If God exists and if he is almighty he didn't create me to sacrifice my sanity to save someone else. If he did, then he's got the wrong person for the job. Who does that leave to preserve me? Me? Then I will.

I've been forced into a position where I either need to hang on or jump ship and take those who are viable with me. Hang on to what? Misery? Let the underserving go down with their miserable ship and suck themselves under. I intend to swim.

This has been posted incognito for reason of security. If you know my identity please do not mention it here. I will most likely not be able to reply to any comments since I am essentially unplugged. It is enough that I said it "outloud". It is no-shit time.

Sign me,
There

[I have posted this at the request of someone else who is unable to post at this time - rdl]




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Re: Title: On behalf of another -- rdl Top of thread Archive
Posted by: james ®
10/17/2002, 06:42:04

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I think you have things right. I have a relative that has stayed with a relationship that should have ended 30 years ago. But, has stayed because of this doctrine of staying with the spouse, otherwise "I will be guilty of adultry" (if divorses and remarries)

What the? I guess everything is like that to many christians. All the 'crosses I have to bear' even if its not in my best interest...but for the sake of tradition, avoiding sin, being a good member, impressing family, friends and church members...




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Re: Title: On behalf of another -- rdl Top of thread Archive
Posted by: Ramona ®
10/17/2002, 07:53:46

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Swim little fishy, swim!! You are a worthy person, deserving of joy. My best friend is experiencing this same dilemma. Here is what I said to her.

Remember: Scripture was written many years ago.

Entire populations were devastated by disease, influenza, smallpox, measles, are examples that quickly come to mind. Marriage insured population growth, which was important to maintain cultural identity; Society needed babies more than happy/sane individuals. Heaven forbid your tribe die out. This is not valued any longer by our society, and rightfully so.


The passage you quoted is from Corinthians and can be attributed to Paul. I ask you this, are you a member of the Church of Christ, or a member of the Church of Paul? I take for granted that quotes from Christ supercede Paulian interest in population building within the church.

Clearly even Jesus allowed for divorce, in Matthew 19: 4 - 9, because of marital unfaithfulness. Hmmm, what exactly is marital unfaithfulness? Sexual infidelity is not mentioned, simply marital unfaithfulness. If a man marries a woman and chooses to behave as a single man, by not talking to her, not respecting her, not attempting to be as one, then I would consider that marital unfaithfulness.

Jesus also taught to "Love your neighbor as yourself." If you truly believe those words, you will stop treating your neighbor better than yourself. I'm assuming that you wouldn't want a neighbor to experience the misery in your heart? You deserve better, because you are good and of value.

Assuming you have children, Christ discusses milestones around the necks of people that "harm the little ones." Has he physically or emotionally harmed the children?

And finally a potent scripture (unlike Paul, this sounds more Christ-like in nature) 2 Timothy 3: People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, without love... Have nothing to do with them.

If you are able to read, you are able to interpret what the scriptures mean to you, for your own life.

You are loved,

Ramona - As Lazarus, returned from the beyond.





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Re: On Guppies and best friends -- Ramona Top of thread Archive
Posted by: rdl ®
10/17/2002, 07:58:48

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thank you Ramona,

Your points are well made and well intended.
I'm hoping that the person I posted this for is able to get on-line long enough to read the responses.

rdl

(having swum up that stream myself I know it's not an easy paddle)



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