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Posted by: james ®
10/15/2002, 23:48:12

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I found an interesting article on the KJV of the Bible, and the character of King James.
http://hector3000.future.easyspace.com/kjames.htm
"...King James did not encourage a translation of the Bible in order to enlighten the common people: his sole intent was to deny them the marginal notes of the Geneva Bible. The marginal notes of the Geneva version were what made it so popular with the common people. The King James Bible was, and is for all practical purposes, a government publication. There were several reasons for the King James Bible being a government publication. First, King James I of England was a devout believer in the "divine right of kings,"

I also found a commentary on how particular theologies can have a translation bias.
http://hector3000.future.easyspace.com/

Which translation bias do you like the best, and why?




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Re: King James, Geneva Bible, other translations
Re: King James, Geneva Bible, other translations -- james Top of thread Archive
Posted by: Jersey Girl ®
10/18/2002, 11:26:18

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James,

I wish I had time to study all of the links that people supply here! I would like to know what the marginal notes in the Geneva Bible contained. Why did King James wish to deprive people of them? I like your posts James, and your non-confrontational style! I'm just sorry I fail in that area myself!

Vicki




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Politics
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Posted by: james ®
10/21/2002, 08:58:10

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Vicki,
I think it was from political reasons. I also feel that many people are involved in maintaining religion for political reasons. It may benifit people in charge, even if the promoters don't follow the religion at all...but they can convince others that THEY should look to religious authorities for guidance in life.

I have gotten the distinct sense that many mormon leaders just follow it for cultural reasons, family reasons, or somehow they benifit by remaining mormon. I also feel that they don't care who they hurt with their power.




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Re: Politics
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Posted by: JAK ®
10/21/2002, 10:27:47

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James,

Present-day politicians use religion frequently in their words. How often have politicians recently said, “God bless America”? Often. It is as if they think by their words they can manipulate “God” to “bless” this country. Never mind about other countries.

When is the last time we heard an American politician say, “God bless Muslims”? When is the last time we heard an American politician say, “God bless India”? Rather, American politicians invoke “God” to “bless” America exclusively...otherwise, they would speak with universal appeal for “God” to bless all nations, all governments, all human beings. But they don’t. And just what do they mean by that phrase? It is a ploy to associate THEMSELVES with God and thereby all their words. And what do the people say when they hear, “God bless America”? They say Amen, Amen. Well, some of them do. They like, want, and believe in a partisan God who blesses THEM above the likes of Africans, Australians, Chinese, etc.

So it is quite clear listening to American politicians that they want “God” to be on their side. Since most American politicians think (and with justification) that Saddam Husain is a threat, why not ask “God” to bless Saddam Husain? Why not pray for God to bless the enemies, turn them into kinder, gentler, more “God-like” humans?

Just how would most Christians react to a minister or priest talking like that on their day of religious worship?


JAK




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"freedom"
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Posted by: james ®
10/21/2002, 23:34:18

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Hello Jak,
I also often hear god mentioned in conjunction with 'freedom', usually as a justification for military action. We are defending the prinicple of 'freedom'. These days it seems more like they are defending economic interests of the country or for corporations. And if you question how far they go in their plan to control terrorism your patriotism comes into question.

I saw a little photo in time magazine I thought was pretty interesting. It showed a child about 5 years old being 'searched' at an airport. The words underneath said, "When does national security collide with common sense?". I certainly hope that this photo was staged to make a point.

I really hated President Bushes recent speaches for these reasons. Frequent mentioning of 'god' and defending the rights of americans to worship god, and defending our freedom to worship god. And of course to have god bless america, a nation created to worship god. Frequent requests for prayer to protect the american military...something like that. I would hope that people would pray that peace would break out in the world...on both sides.




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