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Posted by: nofaith ® 10/02/2002, 14:51:54 Author Profile Mail author |
This person can't be serious. "Lawrd"? "-stan"? "EVILutionists"? "Lean mean..."? The only kind of person who would write such tripe is simply here to laugh at people who continue to take him/her seriously and respond to the ridiculous posts. Don't bother with "BJ"; he/she's just acting the fool to see how many will fall for it. -Dan |
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Re: BJ Re: BJ -- nofaith Top of thread Archive
Posted by: Sarahbelle ®
10/02/2002, 19:04:40
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I can't believe I didn't catch this the first time around: in BJ's second post she(he?) defines "true Christian" according to the words of her good friend, 'Vera Carp'. Vera Carp is one of the characters from "Greater Tuna". I jut saw the show (again) a few months ago. 'Vera' is a sanctimonious Bible-Thumper who never has a kind word for anyone. Pointing out others' faults is just her Christian duty! Maybe we should thank BJ for the laugh.
Maybe not.
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Re: BJ Re: Re: BJ -- Sarahbelle Top of thread Archive
Posted by: BJ Sikes ®
10/03/2002, 03:46:11
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Our dearest Vera is a member in good standing of the Everlasting Righteousness (WELS) Lutheran Church down in Kansas, a member church of the Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod. She is also an honorable member of the C.C.C. (Christian Country Club). She is not any kind of "character" from a "tuna show." How dare you!
Have fun burning in hell!
Bette Jean Sikes
Jesus is Just Alright with Me
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Posted by: Sarahbelle ®
10/03/2002, 10:31:38
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I am generally flattered when someone refers to me as a 'character'. (But then, I frequently handle the truth well.)
Your failure to recognaize the highly acclaimed Greater Tuna productions only points to your illiteracy in cultural matters as well the many other deficiencies you have exhibited here.Note: I already knew that most of us theatregoers were hellbound. At least I'll have someone interesting to talk to for a long while.
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Re: I will, I hear they got great BarBQ... Re: Re: BJ -- BJ Sikes Top of thread Archive
Posted by: diehl ®
10/04/2002, 05:51:46
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I will thank you... do you want me to bring you back a doggie bag? I can probably get ribs, or perhaps a nice grilled chicken sandwich? Also do you like vinegar or tomato based Bar BQ?
or perhaps some tuna salad?
And if I'm not mistaken... the Bible states something about not judging (but I'm a godless heretic so what do I know ;-)
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Its clear that you're a godless heretic Re: Re: I will, I hear they got great BarBQ... -- diehl Top of thread Archive
Posted by: BJ Sikes ®
10/11/2002, 02:01:10
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Bette Jean Sikes
Jesus is Just Alright With Me!THE SCRIPTURE COMMANDS US TO JUDGE
The Lord Jesus Christ commanded, "Judge righteous judgment" (John 7:24). He told a man, "Thou hast rightly judged" (Luke 7:43). To others, our Lord asked, "Why even of yourselves judge ye not what is right?" (Luke 12:57).
The Apostle Paul wrote, "I speak as to wise men; judge ye what I say" (1 Corinthians 10:15). Again, Paul declared, "He that is spiritual judgeth all things" (1 Corinthians 2:15). It is our positive duty to judge.
"Beware of false prophets!" (Matthew 7:15) is the warning and command of our Lord. But how could we "beware" and how could we know they are "false prophets" if we did not judge? And what is the God-given standard by which we are to judge? "To the Law and to the Testimony: if they speak not according to THIS WORD, it is because there is NO LIGHT in them" (Isaiah 8:20). "Ye shall know them by their fruits," Christ said (Matthew 7:16). And in judging the "fruits," we must judge by God's Word, not by what appeals to human reasoning. Many things seem good to human judgment which are false to the Word of God.
The Apostle Paul admonished believers, "Now I beseech you, brethren, MARK THEM which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and AVOID THEM. For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple." (Romans 16:17-18). This apostolic command could not be obeyed were it not right to judge. God wants us to know His Word and then test all teachers and teaching by it. Notice also that it is the false teachers who make the "divisions," and not those who protest against their false teaching. And these deceivers are not serving Christ, as they profess, "but their own belly," or their own "bread and butter as we would put it. We are to "MARK THEM" and "AVOID THEM."
"Come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord." (2 Corinthians 6:17; read also verses 14-18)
"From such turn away" (2 Timothy 3:5). "Withdraw yourselves." (2 Thessalonians 3:6)
"And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them." (Ephesians 5:11)
"ABHOR THAT WHICH IS EVIL; CLEAVE TO THAT WHICH IS GOOD." (Romans 12:9)
"Prove all things; hold fast that which is good." (1 Thessalonians 5:21)
It would be impossible to obey these injunctions of God's Word unless it were right to judge. And remember, nothing is "good" in God's sight that is not true to His Word.
The Apostle John wrote, "Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try (test, judge) the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the
world" (1 John 4:1). Again he wrote, "For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh... If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, RECEIVE HIM NOT into your house, neither bid him God speed: For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds" (2 John 7, 10-11). This Scripture commands us to judge between those who do and those who do not bring the true doctrine of Christ.Whenever a child of God contributes to a denominational budget that supports Modernist missionaries or teachers, he is guilty before God, according to this Scripture, of bidding them "God speed" in the most effective way possible. And he thereby becomes a "partaker" with them of their "evil deeds" of spreading soul-damning poison. How terrible, but how true! Arouse yourself, child of God. If you are guilty, ask God to forgive you and help you never again to be guilty of the blood of souls for whom Christ died. When we are willing to suffer for Christ, we can readily see the truth of God's Word on this tremendously important matter. "If we suffer, we shall also reign with Him" (2 Timothy 2:12).
MISUNDERSTOOD AND MISUSED SCRIPTURE
One of the best known and most important and misapplied Scriptures is "Judge not" (Matthew 7:1). Let us examine the entire passage:"Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considereth not the beam that is in thine own eye? Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye? THOU HYPOCRITE, first cast the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye." (Matthew 7:1-5)
Read this again carefully. Notice that it is addressed to a hypocrite--not to those who sincerely want to discern whether a teacher or teaching is true or false to God's Word. And instead of being a prohibition against honest judgment, it is a solemn warning against hypocritical judgment. In fact, the last statement of this Scripture commands sincere judgment--"Then thou shalt see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye."
IF WE TAKE A VERSE OR A PART OF A VERSE OUT OF ITS SETTING, WE CAN MAKE THE WORD OF GOD APPEAR TO TEACH THE VERY OPPOSITE OF WHAT IT REALLY DOES TEACH. And those who do this cannot escape the judgment of God for twisting His Word (2 Peter 3:16). Let this be a warning to us never again to take a text or Scripture out of its context.
Many who piously quote, "Judge not," out of its connection, in order to defend that which is false to God's Word, do not see their own inconsistency in thus judging those who would obey God's Word about judging that which is untrue to the Bible. It is tragic that so much that is anti- Scriptural has found undeserved shelter behind a misuse of the Scripture just quoted.
The reason Christendom is today honeycombed and paralyzed by Satanic Modernism is because Christians have not obeyed the command of God's Word to judge and put away and separate from false teachers and false teaching when they first appeared in their midst. Physical health is maintained by separation from disease germs. Spiritual health is maintained by separation from germs of false doctrine. The greatest peril of our day is not too much judging, but too little judging of spiritual falsehood. God wants His children to be like the noble Bereans who "searched the Scriptures daily, whether those things were so" (Acts 17:11).
Romans 2:1-3 is also addressed to the religious hypocrite who condemned himself because he was guilty of the same things for which he condemned others. James 4:11-12 refers to an evil spirit of backbiting and fault finding, not to judging whether teachers or teachings agree or disagree with God's Word. The Bible never contradicts itself. To understand one portion of Scripture we must view it in the light of all Scripture. "No prophecy of the Scripture is of any private (isolated) interpretation" (2 Peter 1:20). "Comparing spiritual things (words) with spiritual" (1 Corinthians 2:13).
The "Wheat and the Tares" parable of Matthew 13:24-30, 36-43, is also much misunderstood. First of all, our Lord is talking about the world, not His Church--"the field is the world." He goes on to say that "the good seed are the children of the Kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one." (Matthew 13:38) . They are the two groups in the world, children of God-- those who have received Christ (John 1:12), and the children of the devil--those who reject Christ (John 8:44). When any of the "children of the wicked one" get into the professed church of Christ, as they have always done, a definite procedure for God's children is set forth in His Word. First, it is their duty to tell them that they have "neither part nor lot" in Christ (see Acts 8:21-23 and context). If the children of the devil do not leave voluntarily, as is generally the case, God's children are com manded to "purge out" these unbelievers (1 Corinthians 5:7). But God's people have disobeyed His Word about this, and so unbelievers have gotten into control, as is now the case in most denominations. Therefore, those who purpose to be true to Christ and His Word are commanded to "come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord" (2 Corinthians 6:17), regardless of property or any other considerations. When we obey God's Word, we can trust Him to take care of all the consequences of our obedience.
Immoral conduct of professed believers in Christ is to be judged. 1 Corinthians chapter 5 tells a sad story and closes with the Apostolic injunction, "Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person" (2 Corinthians 5:13).
We ought to judge ourselves. "Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves" (2 Corinthians 13:5). "For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged. But when we are judged, we are chastened (child trained) of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world" (1 Corinthians 11:31-32). What a change and what a blessing it would be if we would judge our own faults as uncharitably as we do the faults of others--and if we would judge the failings of others as charitably as we do our own! And Christians could save themselves much chastening of the Lord if they would judge and confess and cease their disobedience to God. And, O, how much dishonor and lack of fruit would our blessed Lord be spared!
In the Blood of the Lamb,
Pastor Matthew Hutchinson
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Re: Its clear that you're a godless heretic Re: Its clear that you're a godless heretic -- BJ Sikes Top of thread Archive
Posted by: Martin ®
10/11/2002, 19:53:47
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Loving lovers love love and love loving.
Praise Bob!
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You must like Google, BJ Sikes Re: Its clear that you're a godless heretic -- BJ Sikes Top of thread Archive
Posted by: canadacow ®
10/13/2002, 09:49:25
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http://www.fundamentalbiblechurch.org
Or one of these other places:
Some original thought there, BJ Sikeshttp://www.pawcreek.org/Right%20to%20judge.htm
http://cnview.com/on_line_resources/is_it_right_to_judge.htm
http://www.swordofthelord.com/archives/9805JUDG.htm
http://www.wayoflife.org/fbns/fbns/fbns173.html
http://www.wayoflife.org/fbns/judge-not.html
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Thebes/5612/judge.html
http://www.the-highway.com/judgment.html
http://our.homewithgod.com/houseofprayer/Judge.html
http://www.jubilee.org.nz/page26.asp
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/2594/judge.htm
http://www.angelfire.com/pr/truth/judging.html
http://www.narrowgate.net/~bsnider/Righttojudge.html
http://solascriptura-tt.org/SeparacaoEclesiastFundament/IsItRightToJudge-Huling_arquivos/9805JUDG.html
http://www.angelfire.com/ok3/jasonshome/judge.html
http://www.straightistheway.com/tracts/judgenot.html
http://www.sounddoctrine.co.uk/Apologetics/judging/judgingoverview.html
http://www.geocities.com/themobro/index6.htmlAhh, the wonders of Google.
Modified by canadacow at Sun, Oct 13, 2002, 09:54:37
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Wrong again! Re: You must like Google, BJ Sikes -- canadacow Top of thread Archive
Posted by: BJ Sikes ®
10/13/2002, 10:30:43
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But thank you for providing links to all these wonderful sites. I am gonna look over those, and I'll probably post links to them on the TCU forum.
God Bless
Bette Jean Sikes
Jesus is Just Alright With Me!
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Re: Wrong again! Re: Wrong again! -- BJ Sikes Top of thread Archive
Posted by: canadacow ®
10/13/2002, 10:36:58
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Acutally, you're missing the best site of all, Dial-the-Truth-Ministries. These guys are a hoot. I'd say it goes perfectly along with the charade you maintain on this board.
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Well, thank you kindly. That's indeed a great site Re: Re: Wrong again! -- canadacow Top of thread Archive
Posted by: BJ Sikes ®
10/15/2002, 09:09:48
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It seems that you are a reasonable young man, and there may still be a chance for your soul to avoid the hellfire. I will pray for you tonight. I'll ask the Lord to help you change your mind and open your heart to His love.
Kind Regards,
Bette Jean Sikes
Jesus is Just Alright With Me!
Modified by BJ Sikes at Tue, Oct 15, 2002, 09:21:52
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Oxymoron Re: Its clear that you're a godless heretic -- BJ Sikes Top of thread Archive
Posted by: Barbarian ®
10/13/2002, 11:17:27
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Re: Oxymoron NOT! Re: Oxymoron -- Barbarian Top of thread Archive
Posted by: BJ Sikes ®
10/13/2002, 11:42:10
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n 1: a person who holds religious beliefs in conflict with the dogma of the Roman Catholic Church [syn: misbeliever, religious outcast] 2: a person who holds unorthodox opinions in any field (not merely religion)
Source: WordNet ® 1.6, © 1997 Princeton UniversityAccording to that definition, I'm a heretic too 'cause I'm not a Cathlyc. But I'm not godless, for my Lord Jesus Christ is always with me. Atheists don't have a relationship with Jesus, so they are goodless, and heretics, since they aren't Cathlycs.
Bette Jean Sikes
Jesus is Just Alright With Me!
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Moron YES! Re: Re: Oxymoron NOT! -- BJ Sikes Top of thread Archive
Posted by: Jersey Girl ®
10/13/2002, 12:31:11
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Modified by Jersey Girl at Sun, Oct 13, 2002, 13:39:54
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better... Re: Moron YES! -- Jersey Girl Top of thread Archive
Posted by: diehl ®
10/14/2002, 04:29:38
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Oxymormon Re: Oxymoron -- Barbarian Top of thread Archive
Posted by: James ®
10/14/2002, 08:37:54
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I like the term 'elder' in reference to someone 18 years old.
Or 'non prophet' religion?
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Re: BJ Re: BJ -- nofaith Top of thread Archive
Posted by: Fer-de-lance ®
10/11/2002, 05:13:17
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Was there ever even the slightest question in your mind?
I've personally enjoyed BJ's posts. There are reasons that go well beyond scientific evidence and philosophical debate for some of us that make Christianity hard to take seriously. In between goads, BJ has provided interesting little tid bits of information.
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